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יום שני, נובמבר 21, 2005
  Where do they come up with this stuff!?

Ok so I went and put some google ad's on my blog ( sorry but the bills aren't getting paid the way they used to ) And one of the ad's (to be blocked ) was for an x-tian.  

I just don't understand where they get this stuff from. 


My comments are in red.

Dear  Ploni  ,

I  am  afraid  Ray,  as  it  seems  that  you   have  been  misled  by  the clever  devil,  to   think  that  you  will  only  be  saved  in   that  fire. Yes  it  is  indeed  true  that   Yeshki  came  to  save  sinners,  but  those sinners   must  believe  the  gospel  now  to  enable  the   Lord  to  save them ( I thought you said Yeshki was saving the sinners )!  Salvation  will  not  come   after  death  but  is  attained  now, through  faith.

You  will  not  be  cleansed  in  a  fire  after   you  have  died.  Such concept  comes  from  the   devil (there they go again calling the jews the devil) ,  simply  to  misled  you  and  those   that do  not  want  to  believe.  This  serpent,   does  not  want  to  be  thrown there  alone,   but  he  wants  to  take  you  with  him.

The  demons  are  afraid  of  being  thrown   in  that  place  to  an  extent of  begging  the   Lord,  not  send  them  back  to  hell,  when   He  was still  living  in  the  flesh (umm ... what ? ההורא יתברך שמו אינו גוף ולא ישיגוהו משיגי הגוף. The creator, bless his name, has no physical body and is not subject to physical things ( The Rambam's 13 principles of faith #3)). See Luke 8:31; It   is  indeed  your  democratic (?!) right  to  choose (bachirah)   to  go to  hell .  You  will  not  blame  anyone   but  yourself.  Please  think about  that!  You  are   not  in  good  hands  as  you  don't  believe   the whole  gospel,  but  the  serpent  has  you. (so G-d turns his back on those who don't believe in this stuff ? )

You  simply  refuse  to  read  carefully  the  book   of  Isaias Isaiah the prophet  in  chapter  66  verses   22-24  for  your  own  good.  The  devil has   twisted  your  poor  mind  for  your  own   destruction. (While your at it read the whole book of Yishayah, it gives some pretty strong rebuke about worship other gods than the One (yirbarach shemo ) )



If  G-d  would  save  sinners  through  fire  as   you  are  suggesting, John  would  not  have  told   the  Pharisees  and  the  Sadduces  to produce   fruits  in  this  life  that  befit  repentance.   He  would  simply have  told  them  to  wait   until  they  are  cleansed  in  the  lake  of fire.  God  has  not  failed  to  save,  but  it   is  people  like  yourself who  refuses  to  believe   the  true  gospel  of  Yeshki  Chuckles   and  be saved.  My  God  will  not  force  anyone  to   come  to  Him.  He  always ask  humbly  but   many  people  simply  ignores  His  pleas!

(So then what, he likes to bbq sinners for fun!  What is the purpose ? ) 

Lastly,  if  you  do  not  repent,  your  punishment   will  be  much greater  than  that  of  any   other  ordinary  sinner  only  because  your are   busy  contaminating  the  minds  of  the  people   who  Chuckles  died for  in  the  cross (ok this is where you lose me, if he died to clear off all your sins why can't he clean off the 'sin' of not believing ?).  You   must  understand  that  they  will  die  for their   sins  but  the  blood  will  be  sought  by   God  from  you.  Read Ezekiel 3: 17-21. ( Again, great book to read about why not to worship other gods, be sure to get a good commentary on it too )

There  is  absolutely  nothing  that  you  will  help   me  with!  Your  type of  the  gospel  is  from   Satan  and  his  demons.  He  is  your  father and  the  father  of  all  sinners  that  refuses   to  repent!  BEWARE,  you are  on  your  way  to   Hell  and  the  everlasting  Lake  of  Fire.  It does  not  matter  whether  you  believe  it  or   not  (didn't you say that if he believed he would be 'saved'?!),  it  will  surely take  place  only  because   G-d  has  said  so. (When did he say this ? )


The  buck  stops  here,  nevertheless,  I  will  surely   pray  for  you that  your  poor  soul  should   be  saved  from  the  coming  destruction.

Thanks  for  your  ill-informed  gospel! ( and thanks for yours )

Yours  in  Stuff,

Ploni

[Ploni replies]

Dear Ploni:

I am sure that you are completely convinced that what I am saying in my material is wrong, evil, and of the devil. You are primarily basing all of that on a few mistranslation and the false teachings of Yeshkidom.

Your knowledge of the word "hell" is quite lacking. Hell has NOTHING to do with fire. "Hell fire" mentioned in the KJV is from the Greek word "Gehenna."  It is a valley south of Jerusalem (Where did you get that from ). It used to be the city garbage dump. As such it was on fire. As garbage and organic materials were constantly thrown into this fire, the worms there did not die out, but kept on multiplying until there was nothing left to eat. The valley is STILL in Jerusalem, Dan, but the fire is OUT and there are no WORMS there.

The word "hell" in the KJV is translated from the Greek word "Hades" which means the UNSEEN or etymologically, UN=PERCEIVE or IMPERCEPTIBLE.  There can NOT be feelings, torture, pain, etc., in a place that by its very name means to have NO PERCEPTION OF ANYTHING!! People must first be resurrected from Hades before they will have perception again. ( Sorry but the word "Hades" was never written in the original bible, and it was written in hebrew not greek, so your correcting his mistranslations based your mistranslations )

Are you interested enough in the Word of G-d to study this word and see if I am correct?

In Luke 8 (I thought you said the Word of G-d) , the demons did not fear going to "hell." Read it, Dan, they feared being put back into the "deep" as it is in KJV or more properly the "submerged chaos." It is the SAME word translated "bottomless pit" in Rev. where Satan is held for a thousand years, and THEN he is put into the "lake of fire" (Ver. 10). (He is held in the pit because God has one more dirty work for Satan to perform before he begins his purification in the lake of fire (not the pit).

There is NO WORD in either the Hebrew or Greek scriptures that means "eternal" or "everlasting" or "for ever and ever."  Since there is NO SUCH WORD IN THE BIBLE, all such translations are WRONG and misleading.  See the first ten pages of my letter to John Hagee for absolute proof of this. If you don't agree, prove me wrong SCRIPTURALLY!

Um what ?

Try these : תמיד, לנצח, לעולם, לעולם ועד, לעד, try to look them up ... I'm sure you can find more if you tried 

Ploni, on a personal note. I know you feel very smug and comfortable in call me OF THE DEVIL and that the DEVIL HAS ME and that I AM OF MY FATHER THE DEVIL, etc., etc. However, a word of warning:  The one time that the Pharisees accused Yeshki of doing something of the devil or the prince of demons, He warned them that if something really is of THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD and one says that that is really THE SPIRIT OF THE DEVIL, then they have committed a sin that will NOT be pardoned in this life (or age or world) or in the age to come. Such people WILL have to suffer the punishments of the lake of fire to be purified of such evil sins.

Sincerely, 

Ploni


Sorry I wasted your time to have you read that, but some people say that "MY" G-d is judgmental. I just want to assure you that I don't know who they are talking about but it sure isn't "MY" G-d. 

 
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