Ok so I went and put some google ad's on my blog ( sorry but the bills aren't getting paid the way they used to ) And one of the ad's (to be blocked ) was for an x-tian.
I just don't understand where they get this stuff from.
My comments are in red.
Dear Ploni ,
I am afraid Ray, as it seems that you have been misled by the clever devil, to think that you will only be saved in that fire. Yes it is indeed true that Yeshki came to save sinners, but those sinners must believe the gospel now to enable the Lord to save them ( I thought you said Yeshki was saving the sinners )! Salvation will not come after death but is attained now, through faith.
You will not be cleansed in a fire after you have died. Such concept comes from the devil (there they go again calling the jews the devil) , simply to misled you and those that do not want to believe. This serpent, does not want to be thrown there alone, but he wants to take you with him.The demons are afraid of being thrown in that place to an extent of begging the Lord, not send them back to hell, when He was still living in the flesh (umm ... what ? ההורא יתברך שמו אינו גוף ולא ישיגוהו משיגי הגוף. The creator, bless his name, has no physical body and is not subject to physical things ( The Rambam's 13 principles of faith #3)). See Luke 8:31; It is indeed your democratic (?!) right to choose (bachirah) to go to hell . You will not blame anyone but yourself. Please think about that! You are not in good hands as you don't believe the whole gospel, but the serpent has you. (so G-d turns his back on those who don't believe in this stuff ? )
You simply refuse to read carefully the book of Isaias Isaiah the prophet in chapter 66 verses 22-24 for your own good. The devil has twisted your poor mind for your own destruction. (While your at it read the whole book of Yishayah, it gives some pretty strong rebuke about worship other gods than the One (yirbarach shemo ) )
If G-d would save sinners through fire as you are suggesting, John would not have told the Pharisees and the Sadduces to produce fruits in this life that befit repentance. He would simply have told them to wait until they are cleansed in the lake of fire. God has not failed to save, but it is people like yourself who refuses to believe the true gospel of Yeshki Chuckles and be saved. My God will not force anyone to come to Him. He always ask humbly but many people simply ignores His pleas!(So then what, he likes to bbq sinners for fun! What is the purpose ? )
Lastly, if you do not repent, your punishment will be much greater than that of any other ordinary sinner only because your are busy contaminating the minds of the people who Chuckles died for in the cross (ok this is where you lose me, if he died to clear off all your sins why can't he clean off the 'sin' of not believing ?). You must understand that they will die for their sins but the blood will be sought by God from you. Read Ezekiel 3: 17-21. ( Again, great book to read about why not to worship other gods, be sure to get a good commentary on it too )
There is absolutely nothing that you will help me with! Your type of the gospel is from Satan and his demons. He is your father and the father of all sinners that refuses to repent! BEWARE, you are on your way to Hell and the everlasting Lake of Fire. It does not matter whether you believe it or not (didn't you say that if he believed he would be 'saved'?!), it will surely take place only because G-d has said so. (When did he say this ? )
The buck stops here, nevertheless, I will surely pray for you that your poor soul should be saved from the coming destruction.
Thanks for your ill-informed gospel! ( and thanks for yours )
Yours in Stuff,
Ploni[Ploni replies]
Dear Ploni:
I am sure that you are completely convinced that what I am saying in my material is wrong, evil, and of the devil. You are primarily basing all of that on a few mistranslation and the false teachings of Yeshkidom.
Your knowledge of the word "hell" is quite lacking. Hell has NOTHING to do with fire. "Hell fire" mentioned in the KJV is from the Greek word "Gehenna." It is a valley south of Jerusalem (Where did you get that from ). It used to be the city garbage dump. As such it was on fire. As garbage and organic materials were constantly thrown into this fire, the worms there did not die out, but kept on multiplying until there was nothing left to eat. The valley is STILL in Jerusalem, Dan, but the fire is OUT and there are no WORMS there.
The word "hell" in the KJV is translated from the Greek word "Hades" which means the UNSEEN or etymologically, UN=PERCEIVE or IMPERCEPTIBLE. There can NOT be feelings, torture, pain, etc., in a place that by its very name means to have NO PERCEPTION OF ANYTHING!! People must first be resurrected from Hades before they will have perception again. ( Sorry but the word "Hades" was never written in the original bible, and it was written in hebrew not greek, so your correcting his mistranslations based your mistranslations )
Are you interested enough in the Word of G-d to study this word and see if I am correct?
In Luke 8 (I thought you said the Word of G-d) , the demons did not fear going to "hell." Read it, Dan, they feared being put back into the "deep" as it is in KJV or more properly the "submerged chaos." It is the SAME word translated "bottomless pit" in Rev. where Satan is held for a thousand years, and THEN he is put into the "lake of fire" (Ver. 10). (He is held in the pit because God has one more dirty work for Satan to perform before he begins his purification in the lake of fire (not the pit).
There is NO WORD in either the Hebrew or Greek scriptures that means "eternal" or "everlasting" or "for ever and ever." Since there is NO SUCH WORD IN THE BIBLE, all such translations are WRONG and misleading. See the first ten pages of my letter to John Hagee for absolute proof of this. If you don't agree, prove me wrong SCRIPTURALLY!Um what ?
Try these : תמיד, לנצח, לעולם, לעולם ועד, לעד, try to look them up ... I'm sure you can find more if you tried
Ploni, on a personal note. I know you feel very smug and comfortable in call me OF THE DEVIL and that the DEVIL HAS ME and that I AM OF MY FATHER THE DEVIL, etc., etc. However, a word of warning: The one time that the Pharisees accused Yeshki of doing something of the devil or the prince of demons, He warned them that if something really is of THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD and one says that that is really THE SPIRIT OF THE DEVIL, then they have committed a sin that will NOT be pardoned in this life (or age or world) or in the age to come. Such people WILL have to suffer the punishments of the lake of fire to be purified of such evil sins.
Sincerely,Ploni
Sorry I wasted your time to have you read that, but some people say that "MY" G-d is judgmental. I just want to assure you that I don't know who they are talking about but it sure isn't "MY" G-d.
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