Re: They have been sucked into the sin of the Spies
First Spies is referring to a specific set of
Spies (
summary ) talked about in the
Chumash. The simplified story is that before the Am Yisrael (Nation of Israel, The jews ) went into Eretz Yisrael ( the land of Israel ), they wanted to send spies into the land, these spies were made up mostly of the leaders of the nation. The spies came back with a negative report to discourage the people and discourage them from entering the land. ( except for 2
Kalev Ben Yfune, and
Yhosuah Ben Nun). Because of what they did they were forbidden to enter the land until that whole generation died. This is a very over simplification. This is an important ( although tragic) event in jewish history.
When I wrote this It was just to clear up something that I misunderstood and maybe other people did too. I missed an important point of the quote. "they have been sucked into the sin of the Spies." Originally I saw the religious jews who didn't consider living in israel as important as being hypocritical and just missing the point. What I missed was that they have been tricked, they just don't see or understand what they are doing. Kind of like a blind person walking off a cliff. They are surrounded by things that confuse them even when it is so clear. So I was trying to point out is that those who can see clearly should feel sorry for those who can't, like a drug addict. You don't hate him for destroying his body, you feel sorry for him.
As for "eternal truth," I don't really understand what you expect me to say ? When you write a paper on physics you don't go back and derive things from first principles every time for those who don't know the "basics," you expect them to accept certain things, even if it is just temporarily for the sake of understanding your material. If some one tells you "I don't believe in calculus, you have to explain this to me in a way were there is no calculus involved." You can give him a very superficial explanation but he will be really missing many of the pivotal points.
I'm not writing any of this to try to convince any one of my "eternal truths" I'm writing my opinion, and if someone wants to understand then they should accept that what I'm writing is based on a set of principles. If there is a principle that is not clear I'm happy to ( try to) explain it ( and explain my logic) but I can't make any one believe something that they don't want to. If some one doesn't want to believe in my principles then they can accept them as theory for the sake of the article ( even though I know they aren't theories ).
If you notice "Achronim" and "Giants of the World" is from a quote, not something I wrote on my own. I was attempting to explain the quote, and clarify something that was unclear to me.
I hate to point this out but "
world will turn its back" no matter what Israel does. There are so many worse things going on in the world, but you see that Israel gets more attention than any of that. Why was this disengagement on the front page of even the secular american papers. I'm sure that there was some domestic issue that was of much more importance to the well being of average american non-jew. The fact is that the nations ( in general ) have a condition called Sinat-Yisrael . This is a genetic disease that they have, some times it flares up and is worse than others, but it is always there, it is one of those "eternal truths".
What is worse is that even some of Am Yisrael is catching this disease, and it happens from time to time. In jews this is a dangerous allergy to any thing jewish. It is an allergy to something that is essential for their well being. Some jews have more extreme cases where they need to distance them selves from even a hint of Yhadut. But most jews these days have a more mild form where they just have an intolerance to larger quantities, the cure for this is just more exposure, this will built up a tolerance.
The 'believers" do not want to separate them selves from the "non-believers". There are times when the believers get discouraged by the actions of the "non-believers." The point I was trying to make was that even when the "non-believers" give the "believers" reason to separate, the "believers" need to understand that the "non-believers" are confused and blinded by their condition, and that they need help, and not to be pushed away. We can see from this awful thing that just happened that the "believers" are trying their hardest to love and connect with the "non-believers."
I hope this cleared up any confusion...
On 28/12/5765, at 07:06, Ploni wrote:
Yisrael -
Why is Spies capitalized? Who are they spying on? The words are all presented as emanating from an eternal truth which most can’t understand or related to. If it is meant to convince only those who already believe in that truth, why bother? If it is meant to convince or educate others, then trying to do on the basis of faith won’t reach those outside the belief system. Most people don’t know who Achronim is – and when you say Giants of the World – it doesn’t register. People won’t respond. The Jews have to solidify and fortify a strong nation that is beyond reproach – they need the help of even the “non-believers” to survive. If terrorist rockets kill children – even the non-believers will be outraged. If Israelis kill children, even in self-defense, the world will turn its back.
~Ploni